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Offline ninozah

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export import
« on: 09:11 16-Jul-2008 »
Is there a directory of importers in UA in english please?



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Re: export import
« Reply #1 on: 20:47 16-Jul-2008 »
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Re: export import
« Reply #2 on: 10:21 24-Nov-2017 »
Does anybody currently have any good importers to recommend? I need to import some low cement castable, about 3.5 tonne to start within the next few weeks and then a full Artic in March. Both people I used to use for machinery import we good after a few loads but were really useless getting the first load over and I need to get the small load over very soon

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Re: export import
« Reply #3 on: 02:17 26-Nov-2017 »
Hi Darren, I have  a friend with a 7.5 tons truck who regularly goes to EU countries. Contact me with details where to collect the stuff and where to bring it and I will get him to contact you. He doesnt speak good english but his wife has a PHD in english language  teaching.

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Re: export import
« Reply #4 on: 10:15 27-Nov-2017 »
Thank you, PM sent.

Transport is always one of the most difficult obstacles holding Ukrainian businesses back. There are so few transport companies in Ukraine that will go to the UK and they prefer to deal through other companies instead of direct so if there is a problem I have to call my shipping agents (Normally LKWalters) who then have to call the transport company that then call the driver and this can cause a lot of hassle. Over the past few months we have been talking to the drivers when loading and gave them bonus incentives that they get given in cash upon arrival by a certain date, about ?20-40 depending on how they do. This also gives us the direct contact with the driver and we can then know exactly where he is and what is going on as the transport companies do not tell the truth. This has worked very well however it is also normal that a different driver will actually take the load so this option is not possible.

The other issue I have with having to deal through so many people is I am actually trying to pay more for a better service. One of the sections of equipment that we import to the UK is just under 16tonne which requires crane hire which is on average a week of notice in the UK with no option to book provisionally for +/- 2 days for transport delays or lack of (Ukraine should be called Ucrane with the amount of 20t cranes there are). We then also require other specialist un-loading machinery due to all of this equipment has to go through an access door and can not be loaded into place from above so the man power and machinery hire in the UK is a high overhead when a truck s delayed by even one day.

All I want to do is simple, most loads to the UK are loaded Thursday/Friday. Truck is cleared UA border Saturday then arrives in the UK Tuesday, arriving on site Tuesday PM or Wednesday AM. Holiday traffic/ the French banning HGV driving on Sundays during certain seasons ect can easily add a day or two delay. So common sense is to book the crane for Friday and have the Ukrainian truck waiting. However if the truck turns up Tuesday you then have to pay 3 x ?200 De-murrage charge which is not too much of an issue as to have the unloading machinery and man power planned and then have to delay for another day is close to a ?2000 loss. The issue is I can try and try again to book with the agents to specify that the truck will be un-loaded on Friday but this never seems to sink in with the transport company in Ukraine who will have a back load planned for loading Wednesday for the truck that arrived Tuesday AM. This causes hassle on the ground on site of un-loading with the now very angry Ukrainian driver being fed lies by his boss when it is actually his fault the driver was not aware he is going to be staying in Hotel Merc for a few more nights.
Then sometimes the agents will use a Polish agent which will drop your trailer off at a warehouse for the few days that the driver would if been waiting on the UK, then they send a truck and driver with your load to arrive on Friday. On average they arrive Friday PM or Saturday so that just ruins everything.

The 3 days De-murrage charge from above, on average is only 1-2 days and one shipment is 3 trucks so an average of ?900 per invoice(This is because most of the time when we tell the Crane company on Tuesday that the truck is in the UK they are able to re-arrange and unload sooner). I try to offer an additional ?500 per truck, so ?1500 extra per invoice based on the truck waiting for up to 3 days extra but they never accept it. Simply because it is going through so many people.

It was the same in the Flooring factory I used to run, we would send out one artic every 1-2 weeks with an average of 4 unloading points with 12 main customers in total so eventually the companies knew all our unloading places. We were great customers for the transport companies and with regular shipments we were getting the same drivers but things would only go well for a maximum of 2 months before some stupid delay which we were never told the truth about. As the flooring was on pallets they would unload then re-load in Poland which would cause damage. Also we loaded the trucks based on the first delivery point being at the back and so on so the Polish would mess all that up.

I am working with a friend of mine who has two Mega trucks to do my UK deliveries at a higher than standard price but with a tailored service. The Visa's are in process now so once this gets off the ground things should go smoothly, Finally!

Transport has 100% been the biggest pain in the rear doing business exporting to the UK from Ukraine in the past 4 years