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Title: Saakashvili Train Stopped, Gonna Hoof it now!
Post by: David Rochlin on 20:36 10-Sep-2017
   I was going to say derailed, but...
Poroshenko got Saakashvili's train stopped in Poland, short of the border.  Fans will note he was not only accompanied by supporters, but also by Tymoshenko, which of course is bad optics.  Saakashvili now plans to walk into Ukraine.  No news about whether the passengers want a refund on their tickets.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-41219773
Title: Re: Saakashvili Train Stopped, Gonna Hoof it now!
Post by: Reggie on 00:45 11-Sep-2017
Ukraine Seeks to Prevent Saakashvili's Entry by Blocking Train

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/ukraine-seeks-prevent-saakashvilis-entry-151511368.html


Sounds like some serious poop may go down.   

Yulia Tymoshenko is on the train; and she disgusts me.

Let's see if it's real or a show.   

It may all be a show.    Maidan part II?   I don't think so. 

"Local police detained more than 100 people in camouflage clothing who were carrying pepper spray, a starter pistol and ?metal stuff? as they approached the checkpoint."

I'm expecting the price of Khachapuri to double by Christmas time. 
Title: Re: Saakashvili Train Stopped, Gonna Hoof it now!
Post by: David Rochlin on 00:48 11-Sep-2017
Saakashvili was "Swept" into Ukraine with a crowd of people not pleased with the border being closed:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-41219773
Title: Re: Saakashvili Train Stopped, Gonna Hoof it now!
Post by: Reggie on 01:03 11-Sep-2017
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Saakashvili was "Swept" into Ukraine with a crowd of people not pleased with the border being closed:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-41219773

Interesting. 

I wonder if this will technique will work for avoiding a TRP too. 

Let's see what happens.  Waiting with bated breath.  [Cue theme from Jaws.]
Title: Re: Saakashvili Train Stopped, Gonna Hoof it now!
Post by: David Rochlin on 02:27 11-Sep-2017
If nothing else, this means Poroshenko isn't ready for the optics of police beating opposition figures with sticks and dragging them to jail.  Not yet, anyway.
Title: Re: Saakashvili Train Stopped, Gonna Hoof it now!
Post by: ace123 on 12:34 11-Sep-2017
If any members are successful with this approach please post here.

On a more serious not I spotted a guy overstayed recently by two days and got a 90 day ban. OK It's FB and could be BS but it looks like things are tightening up.

Title: Re: Saakashvili Train Stopped, Gonna Hoof it now!
Post by: Tnic on 14:05 11-Sep-2017
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If any members are successful with this approach please post here.

On a more serious not I spotted a guy overstayed recently by two days and got a 90 day ban. OK It's FB and could be BS but it looks like things are tightening up.

Maybe he's just butt hurt because he can't return for 90 days and called a ban.  I used to call it exile, but that doesn't make it so.  :)
Title: Re: Saakashvili Train Stopped, Gonna Hoof it now!
Post by: ignatius on 17:36 11-Sep-2017
I have 2 diferents opinions about that.

 1) This is really a good theater. It can not be so easy cross the border in a country in war.
2) If is so easy for Saakashvili let?s imagine how easy is for Russian army.
Title: Re: Saakashvili Train Stopped, Gonna Hoof it now!
Post by: David Rochlin on 18:06 11-Sep-2017
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I have 2 diferents opinions about that.

 1) This is really a good theater. It can not be so easy cross the border in a country in war.
2) If is so easy for Saakashvili let?s imagine how easy is for Russian army.

Apparently Chechen assassins have only to show their special, Murder Incorporated credentials, and get VIP treatment at the border.
Title: Re: Saakashvili Train Stopped, Gonna Hoof it now!
Post by: Fraucha on 20:38 11-Sep-2017
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I have 2 diferents opinions about that.

 1) This is really a good theater. It can not be so easy cross the border in a country in war.
2) If is so easy for Saakashvili let?s imagine how easy is for Russian army.


Ukraine let's Tymoshenko in and out of Ukraine....so why not any other criminal, hobo or soldier?
Title: Re: Saakashvili Train Stopped, Gonna Hoof it now!
Post by: David Rochlin on 13:58 12-Sep-2017
Police, including border guards visible in the lobby of the Leopolis hotel, where Saakashvili is staying in Lviv.  I expect they are just trying to find him, because they want to stamp his passport.
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2017-09-12/ukrainian-police-arrive-at-saakashvilis-hotel
Title: Re: Saakashvili Train Stopped, Gonna Hoof it now!
Post by: Reggie on 14:36 12-Sep-2017
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Police, including border guards visible in the lobby of the Leopolis hotel, where Saakashvili is staying in Lviv.  I expect they are just trying to find him, because they want to stamp his passport.
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2017-09-12/ukrainian-police-arrive-at-saakashvilis-hotel

If it's not theatre, and it may be, Timishenko (let's just call her "Timmy") is likely waiting for an opportunistic moment to seize Sakashvili's support once he's murdered or shipped off to Georgia to be murdered.   

I'll be voting for Darth Vader in the next election.
Title: Re: Saakashvili Train Stopped, Gonna Hoof it now!
Post by: David Rochlin on 14:46 12-Sep-2017
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Police, including border guards visible in the lobby of the Leopolis hotel, where Saakashvili is staying in Lviv.  I expect they are just trying to find him, because they want to stamp his passport.
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2017-09-12/ukrainian-police-arrive-at-saakashvilis-hotel

If it's not theatre, and it may be, Timishenko (let's just call her "Timmy") is likely waiting for an opportunistic moment to seize Sakashvili's support once he's murdered or shipped off to Georgia to be murdered.   

I'll be voting for Darth Vader in the next election.

Realistically, Ukraine's foreign sponsors have to be applying pressure and threats that a tranche of funding will be delayed, etc.   Unlike Yanukovych or Yuschenko, Poroshenko can't so easily sell Ukraine to the next highest bidder as he leans toward the dark side with his buyer's remorse for democracy.
Title: Re: Saakashvili Train Stopped, Gonna Hoof it now!
Post by: Kord on 12:39 18-Sep-2017
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I have 2 diferents opinions about that.

 1) This is really a good theater. It can not be so easy cross the border in a country in war.
2) If is so easy for Saakashvili let?s imagine how easy is for Russian army.


Ukraine let's Tymoshenko in and out of Ukraine....so why not any other criminal, hobo or soldier?

Who are you callin a hobo sir?

To lump hobos in with criminals ...? not cool bro not cool (  :-[
Title: Re: Saakashvili Train Stopped, Gonna Hoof it now!
Post by: David Rochlin on 12:48 18-Sep-2017
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I have 2 diferents opinions about that.

 1) This is really a good theater. It can not be so easy cross the border in a country in war.
2) If is so easy for Saakashvili let?s imagine how easy is for Russian army.


Ukraine let's Tymoshenko in and out of Ukraine....so why not any other criminal, hobo or soldier?

For Tymo, it is definitely theater.  The gas princess wouldn't be caught dead on a train, otherwise.  She must still have at least some of her fleet of nine private jets from back in the day.
Title: Re: Saakashvili Train Stopped, Gonna Hoof it now!
Post by: Fraucha on 07:05 19-Sep-2017
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Who are you callin a hobo sir?

To lump hobos in with criminals ...? not cool bro not cool (  :-[

It is a list and a figure of speech. Notice the comma between hobo(homeless vagabond) and criminal?  Don't EVEN try to guilt me with your PC crap.
Title: Re: Saakashvili Train Stopped, Gonna Hoof it now!
Post by: Kord on 21:47 27-Sep-2017
Yep, thats me, Captain PC  ::)

Hey Fraucha take your right hand and slap yourself. Then laugh.


Your taking things way to seriously.